Lightroom 2.1 Release Candidate is Up

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I have a dual 2 G5 tower with 4.5 gigs of ram and the adjustment brushes work great in the new camera raw but still sluggish in Lightroom 2.1. I won’t use Lightroom and I feel ripped off by Adobe. Too bad I spent the money.

I’d just be happy if my XP SP3 and 4 gigs of RAM would work as fast as 1.4

The sliders in both 2.0 and 2.1RC are so laggy they are unusable. GeForce 6600 512Mb card with latest drivers too.

How come LR 1.4 and CS2 work fine yet LR 2.1 feels like a big backward step? My specs are way above the minimum and loads of people with the latest machines are having problems too.

Would be nice if Adobe acknowledged this but not holding my breath. Adobe does what Adobe wants to do never mind the users.

Seriously considering Aperture now as LR2.1 has no place in a working pro’s workflow at its current snail’s pace.

Honestly, LR 2.0 has been a major disappointment. The new features are great in theory, but its BUGGY and even the 2.1RC, whole helping some, is still buggy. I feel bad that I paid good money to be a BETA tester…

I have not down loaded the LR 2.1 candidate out of fear of causing some sort of new problem. Trust in Adobe is edgy on my part at the moment.

The thing that really is fouling my work flow up is the fact I can move a file from LR2 to CS3 but cannot save it in CS3 and have it automatically returned to LR 2 for printing etc.. Does LR 2.1 candidate cure the bug that prevents me from doing a full round trip.

Any help from anyone on this round trip problem will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I have an iMac 2.4 w/4GB and after installing 2.1 I still have very slow adjustment brushes and the sliders are still intolerably sticky and unresponsive. The only thing faster is my Library scrolling. I still get ‘loading’ messages switching between raw files.

I want to love LR2.1 but I’m close to giving up on it. Even tried 32bit vs 64 and same things are happening.

The 2.1 update did improve the brush tool to usable but its still not great. I also lost the little circle that I use to get when the brush tool first touched the picture and I can’t find anyway t make it show up.

My biggest frustration has been performance with the adjustment brush and it looks as if this still needs some work as they have indicated. Haven’t been able to tell if it has fixed the number of unexpected quits and program freezes I experience, but so far so good…

For me, the update fixed the edit in CS2 issues and their is no ghosting. Import and export of photos to my web site and to disk is faster. The adjustment brush is still too slow. I’m primarily using it for gradient filter. When you read the update notes, there is a link to a script that fixes the keyword preferences problem when you update a 1.2 database to 2.0. I used the script to update my 2.0 database before I installed the update. Now all my keywords are back and the preferences are what they were before I upgraded to 2.0.

Matt, I really enjoy this blog and have an RSS feed to it. Keep up the good work! Steve

Hi Matt,

I saw your video and saw the part about the XMP that can be automaticly changed when you change a picture.
In Aperture you can do almost the same.. you can save a CR2 with XMP. But as you know there is a big problem when you want to import a picture from Aperture to Lightroom.

I hope you have a good tip … I have a mega database of 25000 pics in Aperture, but since I switched to Lightroom I really want all my pictures in Lightroom (including all my RAW changes)

I hope you or anybody else hav a good tip how to import Aperture pictures into Lightroom

Greets,

Stef Segers from The Netherlands

“On a MacPro with LR set to 64bit and 10GB of memory the difference in performance is incredible. Before, it was sluggish, not much faster than my MacMini with 2GB RAM, but now it’s really fast, even brushes”

10Gb of ram… you shouldnt have trouble running the space shuttle.. please.. we arent talking 8,000 dollar octo quads and 10GB of ram here bud.. that should run anything that is out.. if it doesnt, then you best call Steve… I think most of us are running dual or quad machines with anywhere from 2gb to 4gb of ram… standard workstations that should run standard off the shelf software.

Windows XP Pro. It fixed a problem I was having with LR locking up when changing WB. It had, also, began to lockup when making other basic adjustments, but that’s fixed now.

Lightroom still has a bug … pictures look different from develop to web module. ie: purple skies in develop – blue skys in web module.

Hi!
First of all: Well done beta-update. Good work.
LR 2.1RC1 fixed all the problems I had, only one I found again.
When I copy IPTC-Metadata from a photo (the place, land …) by marking only the land etc. and paste it to the new photo all data not only the marked ones (also keywords) are copied.

I installed the 2.1 RC a few days ago. While certain problems have been addressed and I notice an improvement in performance overall, I still find localized corrections to be sluggish at best, often finding myself waiting for LR to catch up to where I am at. Adobe needs to deliver some serious improvements in this area (note Vista with NVIDIA graphics card).

I also saw the CS4 launch. I have to agree with what nick wrote above in terms of pricing. I would consider an upgrade to CS4 at US prices, but refuse to do so in Europe given that these upgrades cost around 40-50% more (…for exactly the same download in English, that is)!

Thanks for the post Matt.

I can honestly say, LR 2.0 has been a major, major disappointment. Brushes/Grads etc. are a great idea, but the implementation has been poor.
I found LR 2.0 to have major issues in those areas and also experienced Export problems when I upgraded.

I upgraded to LR 2.1 and frankly have found little improvement.

I also use Aperture and Capture NX. each program is very good in certain areas but none hit the nail all round.

When John Nack and other Adobe guys started slamming Aperture recently, they needed to ensure LR 2.0 was very, very good. It was not!

Adobe appeared to receive a slap on the back for the speed in which they were able to provide RAW support for the D700 amongst others. Apple were quite slow! However what was not too well documented was that the RAW support for D700 (and others) was a quick fix Beta release!! This has now been updated, and after Apple released the same support!!

I paid around £100.00 for the LR 2.0 update and after experiencing major problems when exporting images I contacted Adobe. The initial response was pathetic, and it was only after weeks of sending e-mails did one helpful Adobe rep. actually listen to me and (hopefully) cure the problem.

CS4 has been announced today, and like LR 2.0 it looks like an interesting upgrade. However I will not upgrade at the moment, if at all. Why?

1. Is there really enough in the upgrade for me to warrant spending a huge amount of money on this upgrade so soon after CS3?
2. Purchasing Adobe products in the uK is a complete rip off! Fact!
3) If I did spend my hard earned cash on CS4, would it work properly?
4) Will Adobe improve their Customer Support? At the moment it is absolutely hopeless here in the UK.
5) With another major Aperture upgrade around the corner and seemingly less reasons to venture out into Photoshop for me, why waste my money on what may turn out to be a lemon and for a product that I do not require?
6) In terms of ease of use and endless functionality, Aperture is superior to LR 2.0 in all areas except for non-destructive and localised editing (in the purest sense). The Dodge & Burn Plug-in of Aperture does actually work very well. It does however produce a second image and cannot be called non-destructive editing, al least technically. However we have been told that this can be carried out in any Plug In for Aperture and I expect to see this introduced soon.

Anyway, just my personal thoughts, like many people in the UK, I am really brassed off about being ripped off all the time and being presented with sub-standard products that are barely fit for purpose. LR 2.0/2.1 fall into this category at the moment!

I really enjoy your work Matt and thanks from England!

Regards.

Nick

I upgraded to LR2 based on a positive experience with LR1.4. I tried the beta and had no problems. I bought the program disk and now have the same problems with the adjustment brush that everyone else is having. In addition, the adjustment sliders are hard to select and jerk instead of slide. Half of the time, when I release the mouse button. the value changes.

I have an Nvidia card and did the fix recommended in a comment on this site a couple of days ago and that helped a little. I installed 2.1 and that helped the slider problems a little and the Import problem a lot.

It still is not what I expect for a fast, efficient, workflow. If I have to process a lot of images in a hurry, which is most of the time, I use LR1.4.

I have almost all of the problems pointed out above. At first I though I was doing something wrong(as I am prone to do quite often) then i thought it might be some setting in the preferences and finally I have been convinced it was my computer which is borderline prehistoric.
I am so relieved to find out that most of you are experiencing one or more of these same problems. The few that have no problems are very blessed indeed . It might be a good idea if the Adobe engineers would find out what is working for these folks as much as what is not working for most of the rest of us.

Anyone notice that the .lrcat backup file sports the Lr 2.0 icon as a file type?

How long has THAT been there? I just noticed it today when backing up my files.

So far so good for me, “Ghost Folders” that duplicate the folder for an image making the LR-PS-LR round trip are gone, and the Adjustment Brush “click and drag… wait a minute for the mask to show up” SEEMS to be faster. I haven’t fully tested it, but did work without freezing LR and frustrating me 🙂

Hopefully Adobe still working on it for the proper release will only speed it up more.

Adjustment Brush operation is inconsistent and not usable in some instances. I have posted comments on Adobe Forum and had reply that others are experiencing similar problems. With mouse or Wacom I am getting brush drag streaks when mouse not pressed or when pen is lifted. Further, brush application may turn into Zoom tool and I can’t get away without closing the adjustment and losing the work. At times the control point for that particular brush does not appear and I cannot edit the mask or adjustments.

XP Pro, 4GB, nVidia 8600, Dual quad core

It’s back to 2.0 for me.

The RC depends on your CS3 being fully upgraded to 10.0.1 Some users are finding the patch to that is not updating scripting, consequently LR2 interoperabilty with CS3 is blocked. The RC does not address this problem. The scripting fault will have to be rectified by the CS3 team not LR2’s. On a more positive note I am experiencing improved response from the adjustment brush.

I think the brush is as slow as in 2.0
after a few strokes the performace is so bad, I can´t WORK with the brush it´s more like playing around.
what i think is funny/strange, is that the speed of the brush on my old and slow laptop (1,8GHz, 1,5GB RAM) is almost the same as on my desktop-PC (2×2,6GHz, 4GB RAM, etc.).

This update has fixed all of my LR2 problems.

I can actually import a shoot in a reasonable amount of time now (it used to take hours to import a couple of hundred images), and flipping through the modules is quick and painless. The local adjustments are also now useable! My biggest slowdown was whenever the program tried to update the numbers of images in each folder in the library or in the keyword panel it would freeze the whole program for several minutes and you could watch the numbers slowly populate down the screen. That’s all gone now!

This is a huge upgrade!! Good job Adobe!

Reads and process D90 .nefs just fine (only reason I upgraded it).

I installed this update on Saturday and it fixed the problem I was having with not being able to open images is PS ie; Merge to Panorama, open as a Smart Image, and others. So far this update is working well and seems to be faster and more responsive.

Fred