thanks for your patience.

i work as extensively on images as you do though i really dont like getting into PS when i can avoid it. this brings me to your introduction of the silver fx – i have found that i use the develop module exactly the same way you used the silver fx – i would have even done hey Matt,

thank you for the tutorial. it was very insightful.

i have something to add to it if you dont mind. i work as extensively on images as you do. though i really dont like getting into PS when i can avoid it. this brings me to your introduction of the silver fx filter – i have found that i use the develop module exactly the same way you used the silver fx – i would have even done the cloning (on that exact image) in LR instead of PS. the only thing that is not available in LR is the filmstyle simulation which i find quite interesting – it reminds me of amplitube or the guitar rig for emulating vintage amps in music production. that would be a great thing to have in LR.

you mentioned the channels in silver fx and that brings me to my method of converting to B&W:
i do it by desaturating every single color channel in the HSL module and then applying lightness correction in the luminance module – this way i can tweak the main saturation and vibrance channels for the overall look (if you press v and go into grayscale both vibrance and saturation become unavailable). in some cases this tweaking makes or breaks and image for me and i rely on it heavily. unfortunately there is no single button to desaturate all the saturation channels at once without losing the main vibrance and saturation channels (i might suggest that in the LR3 features forums at adobe labs if it has not been requested yet – its not in the LR3 beta though i checked). it would be interesting to set all the sliders to -100 with one click similar to the Alt+click reset (maybe Ctrl+click).

so my point is – set aside the filmstyle sim you can do exactly the same adjustments in LR as you did in PS without leaving LR and creating a potentially huge duplicate file (especially if you are working in 16bit as i am). i will have to test the filter more extensively for potential visual improvement which would make a strong argument for me to go into PS.

thank you again for the tutorial.
cheers
viktorthe cloning (on that exact image) in LR instead of PS. the only thing that is not available in LR is the filmstyle simulation which i find quite interesting – it reminds me of amplitube or the guitar rig for emulating vintage amps in music production. that would be a great thing to have in LR.

you mentioned the channels in silver fx and that brings me to my method of converting to B&W:
i do it by desaturating in the HSL module and then applying lightness correction in the lightness module – this way i can tweak the main saturation and vibrance channels for the overall look. in some cases this tweaking makes or breaks and image and i rely on it heavily. unfortunately there is no single button to desaturate alls the saturation channels at once without losing the main vibrance and saturation channels.

(sorry, couldn’t resist)