Comments on: Weekly Worth-a-click http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/ Online Photoshop Lightroom Tutorials and Tips with Matt Kloskowski Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:08:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Doug http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7920 Doug Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:13:31 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7920 Before I offer my little rant, let me say that I think some of these NIK products look pretty darn cool, and I'm sure they're quite useful. In fact, I'd love to check some of these out, but... One of the reasons I enjoy working in LR is because it's a non-destructive editing environment. This is big for me, as I'm sure it is for many folks. LR has a pretty nice set of editing/image refinement tools but there are certainly times where I can envision utilizing a 3rd party app to make the process even better. For me though, leaving the non-destructive world of LR is a non-starter. I mean, why the heck would I want to be forced to render the file before I could use additional editing tools and then not have the ability to change things later if needed. No thanks. Calling these 3rd party apps "plug-ins" is misleading, IMO. They're external editors just like PS is an external editor, which is fine, but they're really not PI's. When these apps are capable of being plugged into the RAW processing pipeline of LR and can be used non-destructively, then I'll be on board in a big way. I have no idea if this lack of non-destructive PI's is a result of Adobe's unwillingness to supply 3rd party developers with an LR SDK to support this, if it's the developer's unwillingness to do the work required or if it's for other reasons entirely, but until this gets worked out, I'm not signing up. Sorry, just had to get that out. Best to all, -Doug Before I offer my little rant, let me say that I think some of these NIK products look pretty darn cool, and I’m sure they’re quite useful. In fact, I’d love to check some of these out, but…

One of the reasons I enjoy working in LR is because it’s a non-destructive editing environment. This is big for me, as I’m sure it is for many folks. LR has a pretty nice set of editing/image refinement tools but there are certainly times where I can envision utilizing a 3rd party app to make the process even better. For me though, leaving the non-destructive world of LR is a non-starter. I mean, why the heck would I want to be forced to render the file before I could use additional editing tools and then not have the ability to change things later if needed. No thanks.

Calling these 3rd party apps “plug-ins” is misleading, IMO. They’re external editors just like PS is an external editor, which is fine, but they’re really not PI’s. When these apps are capable of being plugged into the RAW processing pipeline of LR and can be used non-destructively, then I’ll be on board in a big way.

I have no idea if this lack of non-destructive PI’s is a result of Adobe’s unwillingness to supply 3rd party developers with an LR SDK to support this, if it’s the developer’s unwillingness to do the work required or if it’s for other reasons entirely, but until this gets worked out, I’m not signing up.

Sorry, just had to get that out.

Best to all,
-Doug

]]> By: prashant http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7919 prashant Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:40:41 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7919 Hi Josh, Hope you check out this thread again. This is really exciting news. I would love to get it soon. I already own Silver Efex Pro version for Photoshop which I really like, is there any discount available to the previous owners or not really? Thanks and regards, Hi Josh,
Hope you check out this thread again. This is really exciting news. I would love to get it soon. I already own Silver Efex Pro version for Photoshop which I really like, is there any discount available to the previous owners or not really?

Thanks and regards,

]]> By: Josh Haftel http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7918 Josh Haftel Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:25:30 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7918 Hey folks, I'm the product manager for the plug-ins, including Viveza and just wanted to comment on the point Prashant made. You're right, Viveza is $250 as is the street price of LR2, so considering that, we announced also that the Complete Collection of all plug-ins is available for Lightroom for $299. That way, if you're only using LR2, you can buy the Complete Collection and get all five plug-ins, Dfine 2.0, Viveza, Color Efex Pro 3.0, Silver Efex Pro, and Sharpener Pro 3.0 all for $299. Keep in mind that this collection isn't compatible with Photoshop (to get Photoshop and Lightroom support, you can get the other Complete Collection which retails for $599). Right now, only Viveza is compatible with Lightroom, but all products will become available between now and June, so purchasing the Complete Collection for Lightroom will mean that you can get Viveza now, and the rest of the products as soon as they are available (about one every 3 weeks or so). More info of course can be found on our web page, as can the trial version of Viveza for Lightroom. Cheers! -Josh Hey folks, I’m the product manager for the plug-ins, including Viveza and just wanted to comment on the point Prashant made.

You’re right, Viveza is $250 as is the street price of LR2, so considering that, we announced also that the Complete Collection of all plug-ins is available for Lightroom for $299. That way, if you’re only using LR2, you can buy the Complete Collection and get all five plug-ins, Dfine 2.0, Viveza, Color Efex Pro 3.0, Silver Efex Pro, and Sharpener Pro 3.0 all for $299. Keep in mind that this collection isn’t compatible with Photoshop (to get Photoshop and Lightroom support, you can get the other Complete Collection which retails for $599).

Right now, only Viveza is compatible with Lightroom, but all products will become available between now and June, so purchasing the Complete Collection for Lightroom will mean that you can get Viveza now, and the rest of the products as soon as they are available (about one every 3 weeks or so).

More info of course can be found on our web page, as can the trial version of Viveza for Lightroom.

Cheers!

-Josh

]]> By: LMartling http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7917 LMartling Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:55:12 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7917 Matty, How do we get the post-crop vingnetting addressed in a new update? It's just plain awful. I'm glad you addressed this issue, but seriously something needs to be done. What steps do you suggest to get it taken care of? Have you had any luck in the past with this type of improvement. Thanks, Lucas Matty,

How do we get the post-crop vingnetting addressed in a new update? It’s just plain awful. I’m glad you addressed this issue, but seriously something needs to be done.
What steps do you suggest to get it taken care of? Have you had any luck in the past with this type of improvement.
Thanks,
Lucas

]]> By: Jaap http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7916 Jaap Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:10:09 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7916 And now with Dutch language! And the good thing: install all languages en select when & which you prefer. Great! And now with Dutch language! And the good thing: install all languages en select when & which you prefer. Great!

]]> By: prashant http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7915 prashant Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:25:43 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7915 Hi Scotty, It is noticed by many. And I think it is a bug. It happened with me a couple of times. Unfortunately I do not remember how I got around it. Hi Scotty,
It is noticed by many. And I think it is a bug. It happened with me a couple of times. Unfortunately I do not remember how I got around it.

]]> By: Scotty http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7914 Scotty Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:40:55 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7914 I recently upgraded to a larger external HD. I copied all the old files and added new ones to the new drive. When I plug it into the computer, the Lightroom library shows two hard drives, one with the old folders and the other with the folders added on the new drive. (All active/no ????'s) All folders/images are on the same drive. Please advise. I recently upgraded to a larger external HD. I copied all the old files and added new ones to the new drive. When I plug it into the computer, the Lightroom library shows two hard drives, one with the old folders and the other with the folders added on the new drive. (All active/no ????’s) All folders/images are on the same drive. Please advise.

]]> By: Merrill http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7913 Merrill Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:08:58 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7913 I'm constantly using Lightroom for various events and weddings that I shoot and it really speeds up my workflow. One small gripe I have is that when cropping images, there seems to be no way to convert the 5X7 crop option to a default setting (I frequently prefer it to the standard 4X6 crop). Do you know of any workaround for this or am I just missing something? I’m constantly using Lightroom for various events and weddings that I shoot and it really speeds up my workflow. One small gripe I have is that when cropping images, there seems to be no way to convert the 5X7 crop option to a default setting (I frequently prefer it to the standard 4X6 crop). Do you know of any workaround for this or am I just missing something?

]]> By: Howard Ignatius http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7912 Howard Ignatius Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:43:33 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7912 If you are a NAPP member I believe Nik has a promo running now that will knock $100 off of the list price of Viveza. If you are a NAPP member I believe Nik has a promo running now that will knock $100 off of the list price of Viveza.

]]> By: ElliR http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/weekly-worth-a-click-8/#comment-7911 ElliR Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:17:00 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1220#comment-7911 LOL Prashant although I can't help but agree with you. I can only think that the high prices are to make up for the low volume of sales 10 x 20 = 200 , 5 x 40 = 200. LOL Prashant although I can’t help but agree with you. I can only think that the high prices are to make up for the low volume of sales 10 x 20 = 200 , 5 x 40 = 200.

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