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		<title>By: maywind</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9491</link>
		<dc:creator>maywind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

here is how I work:

Outside of LR, I copy the photos from my card to a folder, using a date-based structure (YYYY - YYMMDD Event/Location). At the end of the year, I back up this folder to an external drive and burn it on DVD (for the regular back-ups I am using Time Machine).

I then import (add) the photos into LR. I am working in the folder structure right after import to add the metadata (location - country/state/city etc) and keywords (event, person, location - type or general description) as well as for the first sorting.

Afterwards, I nearly always use the metadata/keyword approach, as for me this is the most powerful part of LR. Besides the default presets, I have created several custom presets for patterns I use regularly.

Cheers
maywind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>here is how I work:</p>
<p>Outside of LR, I copy the photos from my card to a folder, using a date-based structure (YYYY &#8211; YYMMDD Event/Location). At the end of the year, I back up this folder to an external drive and burn it on DVD (for the regular back-ups I am using Time Machine).</p>
<p>I then import (add) the photos into LR. I am working in the folder structure right after import to add the metadata (location &#8211; country/state/city etc) and keywords (event, person, location &#8211; type or general description) as well as for the first sorting.</p>
<p>Afterwards, I nearly always use the metadata/keyword approach, as for me this is the most powerful part of LR. Besides the default presets, I have created several custom presets for patterns I use regularly.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
maywind</p>
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		<title>By: ALeX inSide</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9490</link>
		<dc:creator>ALeX inSide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I My structure goes like this:
080110 Scotland
080216-24 Slovakia
080320 Scotland Edinburgh
080517 St. Petersburg, Nik Birthday
080620_nik Tallinn


So it goes chronologically and I see quickly what the images there about. 080517 - 17th May, 2008, so it sorted correctly also in the file managers.

If I was on 2-days event, I usually put them in one folder, But sometimes divide in two folders if I was on two events during a day. With &quot;_nik&quot; I marked that those pictures were taken by Nik


PS: I am really fan of your videos and LR itself. That&#039;s my first comment on killertips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I My structure goes like this:<br />
080110 Scotland<br />
080216-24 Slovakia<br />
080320 Scotland Edinburgh<br />
080517 St. Petersburg, Nik Birthday<br />
080620_nik Tallinn</p>
<p>So it goes chronologically and I see quickly what the images there about. 080517 &#8211; 17th May, 2008, so it sorted correctly also in the file managers.</p>
<p>If I was on 2-days event, I usually put them in one folder, But sometimes divide in two folders if I was on two events during a day. With &#8220;_nik&#8221; I marked that those pictures were taken by Nik</p>
<p>PS: I am really fan of your videos and LR itself. That&#8217;s my first comment on killertips!</p>
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		<title>By: bradyo</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9489</link>
		<dc:creator>bradyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Matt, for sharing another way to keep track of my photos, this would work great from me because i have so many images anyway, so i make separate catalog files by the year, so this would be perfect. thanks for sharing.

aloha brady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Matt, for sharing another way to keep track of my photos, this would work great from me because i have so many images anyway, so i make separate catalog files by the year, so this would be perfect. thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>aloha brady</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Nicole</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9488</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Russ. The problem with keyword or project named folders is that I&#039;ve seen this method break down. The other thing is that I have had creation dates get corrupted in photos, which gets very confusing. That&#039;s why I want the date name in the file.

The other side of the coin is that software does change. Adobe has abandoned software before. (Adobe Type Manager, GoLive, etc) I used to be a big user of Canto&#039;s Cumulus. Stopped using it and now my keyword hierarchies that I had built in to that software are useless to me.

I&#039;m just now starting in Lightroom, so I am trying to decide which method to go with. I&#039;m loathe to leave behind the date folder structure as I said, there can be big problems with named folder structures and creation date corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Russ. The problem with keyword or project named folders is that I&#8217;ve seen this method break down. The other thing is that I have had creation dates get corrupted in photos, which gets very confusing. That&#8217;s why I want the date name in the file.</p>
<p>The other side of the coin is that software does change. Adobe has abandoned software before. (Adobe Type Manager, GoLive, etc) I used to be a big user of Canto&#8217;s Cumulus. Stopped using it and now my keyword hierarchies that I had built in to that software are useless to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just now starting in Lightroom, so I am trying to decide which method to go with. I&#8217;m loathe to leave behind the date folder structure as I said, there can be big problems with named folder structures and creation date corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: dendeNYC</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9487</link>
		<dc:creator>dendeNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your technique Matt, however I ran into a problem (2 weeks before seeing this video) that I think this might have helped.

My question is, is there a way to have that metadata attribute drill down all the Folders in the stack? It seems that to get a date attribute I have to be in the exact folder the photos are in, which is really not useful to me at all since my problem is I have no idea which folder (among the 500) a particular photo is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your technique Matt, however I ran into a problem (2 weeks before seeing this video) that I think this might have helped.</p>
<p>My question is, is there a way to have that metadata attribute drill down all the Folders in the stack? It seems that to get a date attribute I have to be in the exact folder the photos are in, which is really not useful to me at all since my problem is I have no idea which folder (among the 500) a particular photo is in.</p>
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		<title>By: Calliope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calliope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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that was a nice and practical video. I had been using this system before I even knew what Lightroom is and then I was buffled when I read that I had to sort my images by date to be more organised and professional.

But to who would I be more organised? -To my pc yes, to myself, no!

Tha&#039;ts why I would like to say to people to the other side of the fence as you called it, that we need semantic folder naming to organize our pictures. Something short that makes meaning to us,not just our pc!

Exactly like the web is moving towards semantic and user centered mark up, just like software and our current technology is made with semantic and human an machine readable coding, etc. etc....

For example I am working with certain token organising folders and photos renaming {City}{YYYY}-Event_Img#
that is:
1) The CITY I was at,
2) the YEAR or the full date
(perhaps I have visited in Athens a good few times during the year!?) &amp;

3) EVENT
(on what occasion,was I out there with a theme in mind, what was my purpose of having that Canon beast with me all the way?)

4)and last but not least when it comes to file names of each IMAGE, yes I need a NUMBER# to know how many I have shot that day)</description>
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that was a nice and practical video. I had been using this system before I even knew what Lightroom is and then I was buffled when I read that I had to sort my images by date to be more organised and professional.</p>
<p>But to who would I be more organised? -To my pc yes, to myself, no!</p>
<p>Tha&#8217;ts why I would like to say to people to the other side of the fence as you called it, that we need semantic folder naming to organize our pictures. Something short that makes meaning to us,not just our pc!</p>
<p>Exactly like the web is moving towards semantic and user centered mark up, just like software and our current technology is made with semantic and human an machine readable coding, etc. etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>For example I am working with certain token organising folders and photos renaming {City}{YYYY}-Event_Img#<br />
that is:<br />
1) The CITY I was at,<br />
2) the YEAR or the full date<br />
(perhaps I have visited in Athens a good few times during the year!?) &amp;</p>
<p>3) EVENT<br />
(on what occasion,was I out there with a theme in mind, what was my purpose of having that Canon beast with me all the way?)</p>
<p>4)and last but not least when it comes to file names of each IMAGE, yes I need a NUMBER# to know how many I have shot that day)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9485</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the information you provided by finding the photos via the metadata.  However, it would be nice to see how you import the photos and name the folder rather than using the date from the beginning so we understand the full process and benefits of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the information you provided by finding the photos via the metadata.  However, it would be nice to see how you import the photos and name the folder rather than using the date from the beginning so we understand the full process and benefits of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian Schrik</title>
		<link>http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/video-organizing-photos-by-date/#comment-9484</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristian Schrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it works for me, although I named by folders by date and then a short text on the subject.
For me it&#039;s a quick way to find by date and subject.
Although this works as well, it looks like it takes some more time to find the date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it works for me, although I named by folders by date and then a short text on the subject.<br />
For me it&#8217;s a quick way to find by date and subject.<br />
Although this works as well, it looks like it takes some more time to find the date.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the sort of discussion that&#039;s been ongoing in the NAPP LR forum since LR came out.  To me keep in mind how you physically organize your photos on your hard drive can be completely different from how you organize within LR.  That&#039;s what makes LR so useful as Matt showed in the video.

I think when this discussion comes up there&#039;s the assumption that LR will be the last photo processing software I will ever use. Before LR I had used a half dozen different programs to process my photos. If another program came along better than LR, there is no guarantee I would be able to transfer the database organization from LR into that program.

With a Year Month Day file system on my hard drive that basic organization will always be transferable.  I&#039;m not recommending that&#039;s how everyone should do it rather you should view how you organize on your hard drive separate from what software you use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the sort of discussion that&#8217;s been ongoing in the NAPP LR forum since LR came out.  To me keep in mind how you physically organize your photos on your hard drive can be completely different from how you organize within LR.  That&#8217;s what makes LR so useful as Matt showed in the video.</p>
<p>I think when this discussion comes up there&#8217;s the assumption that LR will be the last photo processing software I will ever use. Before LR I had used a half dozen different programs to process my photos. If another program came along better than LR, there is no guarantee I would be able to transfer the database organization from LR into that program.</p>
<p>With a Year Month Day file system on my hard drive that basic organization will always be transferable.  I&#8217;m not recommending that&#8217;s how everyone should do it rather you should view how you organize on your hard drive separate from what software you use.</p>
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		<title>By: Max R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two days ago I resorted my entire photo structure by date, and then I saw this last night. At first I dismissed it as some more information I didn&#039;t need (as a borderline OC librarian type, I have my own system that I stick to religiously), but it started gnawing on me after a while. Like many other commenters, it&#039;s not uncommon for me to take hundreds or thousands of pictures in a very short space of time. However, as someone who changes timezones a lot, sometimes that doesn&#039;t get reflected immediately in the camera. Thus, my metadata can be wrong, and Lightroom&#039;s internal database is likewise incorrect. That screws up sorting and requires some sort of manual component.

In a recent shoot, my camera had reset to default date and time without my knowing until I got back to my computer, so suddenly I had a heap of January 1, 2004s (Lightroom, bless its heart, at least acknowledges this as an &quot;Unknown Date&quot;), but at some point I&#039;ve got to keep them separate. I was a major proponent of the One Big Folder approach, but at some point you&#039;ve got to break that folder down to its smaller components. By reorganizing and then allowing Lightroom to create its own date-based folders on import, I can keep everything separate, and if I ever need to break catalogs apart for storage, I don&#039;t have to dig very hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two days ago I resorted my entire photo structure by date, and then I saw this last night. At first I dismissed it as some more information I didn&#8217;t need (as a borderline OC librarian type, I have my own system that I stick to religiously), but it started gnawing on me after a while. Like many other commenters, it&#8217;s not uncommon for me to take hundreds or thousands of pictures in a very short space of time. However, as someone who changes timezones a lot, sometimes that doesn&#8217;t get reflected immediately in the camera. Thus, my metadata can be wrong, and Lightroom&#8217;s internal database is likewise incorrect. That screws up sorting and requires some sort of manual component.</p>
<p>In a recent shoot, my camera had reset to default date and time without my knowing until I got back to my computer, so suddenly I had a heap of January 1, 2004s (Lightroom, bless its heart, at least acknowledges this as an &#8220;Unknown Date&#8221;), but at some point I&#8217;ve got to keep them separate. I was a major proponent of the One Big Folder approach, but at some point you&#8217;ve got to break that folder down to its smaller components. By reorganizing and then allowing Lightroom to create its own date-based folders on import, I can keep everything separate, and if I ever need to break catalogs apart for storage, I don&#8217;t have to dig very hard.</p>
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