Comments on: Is it wrong to steal Lightroom presets? http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/ Online Photoshop Lightroom Tutorials and Tips with Matt Kloskowski Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:08:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Andree Caron http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-14577 Andree Caron Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:44:32 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-14577 That reminds me of how a lot of freeware are built to look, feel and act like big brand software. Example: Gimp vs Photoshop. Granted, the first is not nearly as complex as the latter, but the fact is that the freeware imitates a lot of the other's functionality. Does this relate to the topic, not sure, but thought I'd throw this out there. That reminds me of how a lot of freeware are built to look, feel and act like big brand software. Example: Gimp vs Photoshop. Granted, the first is not nearly as complex as the latter, but the fact is that the freeware imitates a lot of the other’s functionality.

Does this relate to the topic, not sure, but thought I’d throw this out there.

]]> By: Andree Caron http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-14575 Andree Caron Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:31:26 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-14575 This is indeed very interesting and I love the diversity in opinion. Just wanted to point out that Daguerre is the one famous for making the process public, but he isn't the one that invented it :) Funny how it was used in comments here as it wasn't a patented process and therefore he was able to publish the work and get the credits for it. Got that reading photographic history in the 80's collection of Time Life's La Photographie series. Very interesting. Back to the discussion :) This is indeed very interesting and I love the diversity in opinion.

Just wanted to point out that Daguerre is the one famous for making the process public, but he isn’t the one that invented it :) Funny how it was used in comments here as it wasn’t a patented process and therefore he was able to publish the work and get the credits for it. Got that reading photographic history in the 80′s collection of Time Life’s La Photographie series. Very interesting.

Back to the discussion :)

]]> By: Loraine McCall http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9231 Loraine McCall Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:19:26 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9231 Many individuals from other countries do not consider plagiarism as wrong, they just see it as another great idea that they should do as well. I am not excusing them, rather, I am just guessing why it happens. This Lightroom preset ordeal is not the first and unfortunately not the last of its kind. Many individuals from other countries do not consider plagiarism as wrong, they just see it as another great idea that they should do as well. I am not excusing them, rather, I am just guessing why it happens. This Lightroom preset ordeal is not the first and unfortunately not the last of its kind.

]]> By: Lloyd http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9230 Lloyd Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:31:19 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9230 Photographers who cannot, or do not, adapt to the fact they now live in a digital world will fail. It's that simple. Continue to be judged by the sum of your parts. Photographers who cannot, or do not, adapt to the fact they now live in a digital world will fail. It’s that simple.

Continue to be judged by the sum of your parts.

]]> By: Todd http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9229 Todd Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:02:45 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9229 Well I plugged in all the lightroom settings, I even used the same camera settings but my image looks nothing like the onese I was trying to copy Oh, wait, do I have to take the lens cap off? That wasnt in the meta (instructions) now what do I do? I have no great use for presets other than learning the general effects of combinations of settings, for as Matt said without the original source material the outcome will always be different. Lightroom "Settings" as property, completely Laughable, good luck with that one in court. Might as well copyright the temperature and time that you bake cookies for, or better yet directions from point a to point b. Well I plugged in all the lightroom settings, I even used the same camera settings but my image looks nothing like the onese I was trying to copy

Oh, wait, do I have to take the lens cap off? That wasnt in the meta (instructions) now what do I do?

I have no great use for presets other than learning the general effects of combinations of settings, for as Matt said without the original source material the outcome will always be different.

Lightroom “Settings” as property, completely Laughable, good luck with that one in court. Might as well copyright the temperature and time that you bake cookies for, or better yet directions from point a to point b.

]]> By: wrong to now http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9228 wrong to now Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:05:12 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9228 I think it may be wrong, some great site on this is http://www.isitwrongto.com. So if you like it i'll see you over there, enjoy! I think it may be wrong, some great site on this is http://www.isitwrongto.com. So if you like it i’ll see you over there, enjoy!

]]> By: Chris T. http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9227 Chris T. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:21:12 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9227 I should also add that the process (algorithm, or in this case a series of presets) to generate something is not copyrightable. Processes however are patentable, if you want protection on your process you can go ahead and patent that, but it is not automatic. And like pharmaceuticals, you would be required to disclose the process to the public, and the patent would expire in ~20 years. Now a specific look with a specific subject (regardless of the process to get it) could be covered by trademark. Keep in mind that, like a patent, it is not automatic: you would need to get it trademarked and and there are fairly specific rules about enforcing and protecting it. As many have pointed out, if I managed to take a photo that was strikingly similar, so similar that people would confuse them, then you might be violating some copyrights. But this would also require the two photos look very similar and the actual process probably would not even matter. I am not a lawyer, I just play one on the internet. I should also add that the process (algorithm, or in this case a series of presets) to generate something is not copyrightable. Processes however are patentable, if you want protection on your process you can go ahead and patent that, but it is not automatic. And like pharmaceuticals, you would be required to disclose the process to the public, and the patent would expire in ~20 years.

Now a specific look with a specific subject (regardless of the process to get it) could be covered by trademark. Keep in mind that, like a patent, it is not automatic: you would need to get it trademarked and and there are fairly specific rules about enforcing and protecting it.

As many have pointed out, if I managed to take a photo that was strikingly similar, so similar that people would confuse them, then you might be violating some copyrights. But this would also require the two photos look very similar and the actual process probably would not even matter.

I am not a lawyer, I just play one on the internet.

]]> By: kent http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9226 kent Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:32:00 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9226 I only want to comment on the drug company example and point out that it actually may not a good example. If a drug company develops a new drug, which does take quite a bit of time and money in the R&D process, then they are rewarded with a patent that protects anyone else from coming a replicating that drug and selling it for cheaper for a set number of years (around 10 yrs, but can't remember exactly). These are enforceable and usually successfully so. After that time then anyone can duplicate and sell that product for any price they wish. I only want to comment on the drug company example and point out that it actually may not a good example. If a drug company develops a new drug, which does take quite a bit of time and money in the R&D process, then they are rewarded with a patent that protects anyone else from coming a replicating that drug and selling it for cheaper for a set number of years (around 10 yrs, but can’t remember exactly). These are enforceable and usually successfully so. After that time then anyone can duplicate and sell that product for any price they wish.

]]> By: Jon http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9225 Jon Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:30:16 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9225 "steal my exif" but you won't wind up with my images. If you think you will, good luck with that. We all should try to learn from each other, but don't kid yourself - it's more than just "settings" that make good images. “steal my exif” but you won’t wind up with my images. If you think you will, good luck with that.

We all should try to learn from each other, but don’t kid yourself – it’s more than just “settings” that make good images.

]]> By: Larry Moffitt http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/is-it-wrong-to-steal-lightroom-presets/#comment-9224 Larry Moffitt Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:15:03 +0000 http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/?p=1495#comment-9224 Personally, I am grateful for presets shared by others. I look at them as a jumping off point for own education. I accept them "as is" and know that my mileage will vary if I use them. I notice the video on How to Install Presets has been taken down. Is that a glitch or intentional? Personally, I am grateful for presets shared by others. I look at them as a jumping off point for own education. I accept them “as is” and know that my mileage will vary if I use them.

I notice the video on How to Install Presets has been taken down. Is that a glitch or intentional?

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